Problems with TIF files metadata
Hi Alberto,
there seems to be some issues with the tif files meta-data. At least in my case, sequator and Afinity Photo complain about different things when I open tif files exported from ART (see the screenshots).
All the best,
Daniel
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reporter Hi Alberto,
sure, I’ll attach the files. I noticed this while following my ‘regular’ night photography workflow which involves:
- save the RAF files on the hard drive
- open them in ART
- open one of them, change the profile to neutral
- make some minimal global changes
- synchronize all the files that will be stacked in sequator
- export as 16 bit tif
- import in sequator and stack
- import the result in affinity photo and blend with other eventual images taken only for foreground.
It happens with all the tif files exported from ART in this way. I did not tried to generate tif files from other raw formats yet, but will try also this,
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reporter - attached DSCF0418.RAF
- attached DSCF0418.RAF.arp
Test files attached.
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repo owner Thanks for the files. For the Affinity warning, did you try using a V2 profile instead of V4? It might be that Affinity doesn’t understand V4 profiles?
Regarding sequator, I can reproduce the warning, but if I look with exiv2 and/or exiftool I don’t see any null byte in the Copyright tag…
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reporter You are right with sequator, I also cannot see anything wrong there…
About Affinity, it gives the same warning with RT V2 profile, but it works fine with RT_Rec2020. So I guess the problem is not in ART but in the other software(s).
I guess this ticket can be closed now …
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repo owner Thanks for checking. It would still be good to understand what confuses Affinity though…
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reporter Ok, how can I investigate this? Can I compare something between the file that raises the warning and the one that does not?
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repo owner sorry, I think I was unclear… I didn’t mean that I’m expecting you to investigate, I was just thinking of leaving this open… however, you are more than welcome to help of course!
one way would be to try using other srgb profiles and see if they also trigger the warning. If not, then we should try to understand what is the difference between them, and proceed from there…
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reporter No problem, I’ll gladly look into it. I’ll let you know as soon as I have done something.
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reporter So, out of curiosity, I opened a RAF file, set the processing profile to neutral and exported it as jpg and as tif without changing anything else.
Affinity opens the jpg just fine with no complains, but for the tif it complains that the profile is missing. This can of course come from how Affinity treats the different file types and not from how ART attaches the profile to the file.
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reporter Hi Alberto,
I tried to open the tif file also with gimp 2.99. I get a similar warning as from Sequator (se the attached file).
I guess I can get some logs or some detailed information from gimp if you think it is useful.
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reporter - attached gimp.jpg
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repo owner Hi Daniel,
I’ve just pushed a tentative fix for the issue. Can you try again with the latest master?
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reporter - attached AboutThisBuild.txt
Hi Alberto,
I tried with the master this evening and did not noticed any change. Both Gimp and Sequator complain as before.
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reporter I also tried to actually put something in the field and that works fine, the warning is no longer shown.
After this, I deleted the content and saved again with empty copyright. The warning message appeared again.
I am not sure this things worths to spend any more time on it. After all, the files are usable in both Sequator and Gimp even if the warnings appear.
I suppose there are more interesting things to do in ART than this
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reporter - attached darktable_tiff.jpg
I've exported a tiff also from darktable. Sequator and gimp complain, but this time is because the Copytight tag does not end with a null byte.
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Hi Daniel,
can you provide an arp (and an input file if this happens only with some files)? [and is it really necessary to ask for this all the time? – sorry, this is not directed at you in particular, it’s just that it seems like a trend recently that people report bugs – for which I’m very grateful – without providing any info on how to reproduce. I don’t mind working for free, this is a hobby after all, but chasing bugs is not fun…]