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Disambiguation pages are not anthroponymy articles, wrong "instance of" used in Disambiguation items game?

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Frank Wein created an issue

Hi, I'm not exactly sure if this is an issue, but I'll report here to make sure: The "Disambiguation items" games suggested (as a real example) this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bekir. Now I wonder: Is this a valid suggestion for a disambiguation page? If yes, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Disambiguation_pages#Given_names_or_surnames these pages are not disambiguation pages? "Articles only listing persons with a certain given name or surname, known as anthroponymy articles, are not disambiguation pages"

So setting instance of Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410) would be wrong there as far as I see this. Or did I get something wrong and that example above is not a disambiguation page and I should click on "Don't show again"? But then, what would be a valid example of a disambiguation page that's also an instance of surname or given name?

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  2. Magnus Manske repo owner

    Well, what the English Wikipedia MoS says is most certainly not automatically law for Wikidata. That said:

    • Calling those pages "disambiguation" is not wrong IMHO, though it may be too generic

    • What other item would you suggest to use for "instance of"? The disambiguation subclass tree isn't exactly awash with candidates...

    • Maybe an example where it's done "right" (according to en.wp MoS) on Wikidata?

    • Is this a rare event, or does it apply to all given/family name pages? If it's the former, use "Skip"; if it's the latter, I can change the code for the buttons, but only if I have a better target item.

    • I won't be adding any more buttons to this one. It's overcrowded as it is!

    • IMHO, even the (possibly over-generic) "Wikimedia disambiguation page" is better than no "instance of" at all.

  3. Frank Wein reporter

    You get very often surname/given name pages via that game. Maybe a new item should be created for those anthroponymy articles? I'm far from being a wikidata or category expert though... for now, you could just give it "instance of given name/family name" and just leave out the Wikimedia disambiguation page instance of. I'll start a discussion on this at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Anthroponymy to possibly find out more.

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