Issue #120 open
John Dingle
created an issue

Am testing MD2019 (currently on 1818). I have Money Forecast v49 on the summary page, set to show my current account. When I first open MD, there is a huge drop in balance the next day, returning the following day. I also notice that if I hover over it to try to see what has caused it, the date format is wrong - it seems to be mm/dd/yy. I don't recall the date being wrong on MD2017, but could be wrong, but the wrong forecast balance is certainly new to MD2019.

Comments (18)

  1. Kevin Stembridge

    Hi John,

    Do you see the same drop in balance in the main Money Foresight Forecast window? If so, could you take a look at the Transaction tab to see if it provides any clues.

    On a separate topic, I'm surprised you're not seeing the error in issue #119. What operating system are you running on?

  2. John Dingle reporter

    Hi Kevin

    I have not had the issue reported in #119. I am running on Windows 10 x64 build 1809. The first MD2019 I tried was installed from the .exe installer, but subsequent ones have been installed from the .appx as Windows 10 apps. In all MD builds I have seen the balance drop on the summary page, but it is not there if I open the Money Forecast main window. If I go into settings on the summary page and just click Apply with the current settings, it goes away.

    John

  3. John Dingle reporter
    Starting Moneydance 2019.0 (1822) at Wed Dec 19 09:36:25 GMT 2018 Settings Folder: C:\Users\John\.moneydance OS: Windows 10 10.0 amd64 Java: 11.0.1 (Oracle Corporation) Is in sandbox: false; restricted file access: false initialized extension balpred in 0.031 seconds findandreplace (0): 12-19 09:36:25.632|Initialized build 1211 ok initialized extension findandreplace in 0.037 seconds initialized extension moneyforesight in 0.439 seconds initialized extension securitypriceload in 0.0 seconds initialized extension yahooqt in 0.665 seconds opening last file: Our Accounts loading dataset: C:\Users\John\.moneydance\Documents\Our Accounts.moneydance loading with 128 bit encryption key reading trunk data tiksync/trunk trunk data loaded (1.6 seconds), checking for incremental updates loading un-synced txn files... loading synced txn files... reading txn file 09a93d22-7d31-4701-8dc5-355e0ceb9368.mdtxn reading txn file 0d2f1501-0abf-4910-b7b4-4c19accfe4c7.mdtxn reading txn file 1fd07921-da1c-4e50-a960-1ba9240fa76b.mdtxn reading txn file 32b90421-66d1-4572-9fd1-e217085712cb.mdtxn reading txn file 335300ac-ffd1-4f37-8b1e-fd35b1eecf97.mdtxn reading txn file 3a6b4e29-1316-425b-8799-9829b50c5750.mdtxn reading txn file 3fbc3672-db73-4332-a7b3-d413260ea723.mdtxn reading txn file 44e86e73-bfb2-49b3-a044-6ac9117609ea.mdtxn reading txn file 471f36f1-218e-4683-a2fe-46ece2b41933.mdtxn reading txn file 5c37f700-2c53-4360-9689-1234a866c95b.mdtxn reading txn file 793160b5-540a-4276-a03e-44ab8f1cc502.mdtxn reading txn file 8a9fb828-5ca9-4fe2-88d9-bde3b257a48f.mdtxn reading txn file 9ee6b30d-ff98-45a7-bf14-8cf918b85302.mdtxn reading txn file ac77167d-47e4-41ce-986a-b184a7adce4e.mdtxn reading txn file c138f451-ec2d-4149-87cb-6f73e7a65b66.mdtxn reading txn file e4447f97-10d5-4341-98c7-e8941779d533.mdtxn reading txn file f3e4029e-fc6c-4233-b3e4-9c10e8dd8d0b.mdtxn replacing root: null () with new root: Our Accounts (d9e1bcd7-398a-4b86-b46d-36e25ab81eed dropbox folder should be at C:\Users\John\Dropbox and exists=true base sync folder: C:\Users\John\Dropbox\.moneydancesync dropbox folder should be at C:\Users\John\Dropbox and exists=true base sync folder: C:\Users\John\Dropbox\.moneydancesync base sync folder: C:\Users\John\Dropbox\.moneydancesync base sync folder: C:\Users\John\Dropbox\.moneydancesync base sync folder: C:\Users\John\Dropbox\.moneydancesync set antialiasing to HRGB adding local txn file to upload buffer: tiksync/out/20181219093650_414.txn pushing transactions: >>>>> mod.acct:gui_last_qif_acct_id=33&grfRepDefaultParams={%0A "com.moneydance.apps.md.view.gui.reporttool.CostBasisReport" %3D "%3FcolWidths%3Ddefault%26landscape%3DN"%0A "com.moneydance.apps.md.view.gui.reporttool.AccountBalanceReport" %3D "%3FcolWidths%3D584,0%3B510,1%3B559,2%26inc_zero_balances%3DN%26all_accounts%3DN%26accounts%3D-3000,-4000,-5000,-2000,-1000,-4600,-4300%26balance%3Dcurrent%26landscape%3DN%26as_of%3Dtoday%26to_curr_id%3DGBP"%0A 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  4. John Dingle reporter

    Hello

    I have also noticed today that the Money Forecast window transaction tab is completely wrong. If there is more than one transaction on a date, all of them are taken off on the first line, so the balance reflects everything that day not just the amount from that line. On subsequent lines they seem to be taken off again. The table view is therefore completely different from the graph view.

    John

  5. Kevin Stembridge

    Thanks for the console output. I was hoping to see some kind of error that explained the problem but nothing unexpected in there I'm afraid.

    I'm unable to reproduce it locally, so I'm a bit stumped.

    I've produced an unofficial v50 build that fixes a different issue that was specific to MD 2019. Could you try installing that build to see if it makes a difference and then we'll go from there.

    You can find the build attached to #121.

    Cheers,

    Kevin

  6. John Dingle reporter

    Hi Kevin

    Have now updated to 1824 and installed your v50. The huge dip problem appears to have been solved, but the strange behaviour in the transaction tab remains. I have attached a screenshot.

    John

  7. Kevin Stembridge

    Hi John,

    Thanks for trying that out. I wonder if it was a problem with Money Foresight or with Moneydance. In any case, glad it's gone away.

    I can't see a an attachment. Bear in mind this site is public, so you may prefer to send it to support@moneyforesight.com.

  8. John Dingle reporter

    Hi Kevin

    It was always the next day, so second day of the forecast. If I hovered over it, that day had the date format reversed. I also noticed that the release notes of MD 1824 had this in - Delay auto-committing of reminders until after the first sync pass is complete – might that have made a difference?

    John

  9. Kevin Stembridge

    That's interesting. Gives me a lead to work on at least. I've briefly tried playing around with an auto-commit reminder but haven't been able to reproduce yet.

    Do you have any auto-commit reminders? If so, does the total amount of those reminders match the change in balance? If you turn off auto-commit does the problem go away?

  10. John Dingle reporter

    Hi Kevin

    All my reminders are auto commit. It was difficult to tell the amount as the writing when I hover over the graph in the summary window is too small to read easily and they overwrite each other as you move the cursor. The drop was far greater than the next day’s reminder however – I would say it was almost the amount of the whole month. The big drop does not occur any longer so I can’t look at it again.

    John

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