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OIDC Browser Interactions Special Topics Call

2021-05-05

Attendees

  • Tim Cappalli (Microsoft Identity)
  • Tony Nadalin
  • Bjorn Hjelm (Verizon)
  • Vittorio Bertocci (Auth0/Okta)
  • Brock Allen
  • David Waite (Ping)
  • Heather Flanagan
  • Sam Goto (Google/Chromium)
  • Jared Hanson (Okta)
  • Tom Jones
  • John Bradley (Yubico)
  • Edmund Jay
  • Brian Campbell (Ping)

Agenda

  • Intros, reintros, agenda bash
  • Open discussion: Highlights from OIDF workshop or IIW
  • Workshop updates (Heather)
  • R&E Federation Updates (Heather / Tim / Vittorio)
  • Review Front-Channel Logout Use Case
  • Volunteers for use cases
  • Topics for next call
  • Open Discussion

Notes

Workshop updates

  • {Heather} May 25/26 are still the targeted dates, but may change. Google, Microsoft and Facebook are all confirmed for participation. Still trying to get Apple and Mozilla involved. Go/No Go coming soon

R&E Federation Meeting

{Heather}

  • Meeting was very well attended (60 people)

  • Slides from the meeting

  • Discussion around adding a new attribute to a cookie to clear on browser close

  • {Vittorio} People asked: "Why are browsers preserving session on browser close?". Many apps want a persistent cookie so many will use persistent anyway.

  • {Vittorio} Before engaging with HTTP folks at IETF, should discuss further with Scott and team

  • {Heather} Having the tool in the toolbox would be helpful

  • {Vittorio} SameSite is still draft at IETF. Seems some of these cookies attributes are born elsewhere.

  • {Sam Goto} Each browser has their own process. Chrome uses this https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features. Intent to ship is the last call (often after a year of work). Intent to Experiment is a stronger signal where real users are exposed. TAG reviews happen here and also ask for other browser positions.

  • {Vittorio} Something lower level like a cookie attribute

  • {Sam Goto} should have been same process for SameSite https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/-unZxHbw8Pc

  • {Heather} First time many folks understood that this wasn't just about 3P cooies, ex: link decoration. Hopefully will trigger more interest and engagement

Use Case Discussions

  • {Heather} Multilateral SAML one doesn't touch on 3P cookies
  • {Sam Goto} Concerned about premature generalization. Prefer a few well written ones
  • {Vittorio} Scenarios are designed to have information in a way that's easy to be consumed
  • {Heather} Trying to avoid suggesting solutions in these use cases
  • {Sam Goto} Someone needs to look at the layers all the way through
  • {Heather} would like to have some kind of pipeline for use cases

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