extradoc / minute / pypy-sync-2006-03-09.txt

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pypy-sync developer meeting 09th March 2006
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Attendees:  Samuele around
            Anders C.
            Anders L.
            Carl Friedrich (minutes)
            Michael
            Nik
            Gerald

Topics 
====================

- activity reports (3 prepared lines of info). 
  Everybody submitted activity reports (see `IRC-Log`_ at the end)
  There was one blocker: it seems that the people working on logic would really
  like to have lightweight threads exposed to app-level (in basically any
  form, for example tasklets). 

trying to get pypy-syncs to happen more regular again
------------------------------------------------------

Since this weeks pypy-sync was more ad-hoc than organized we should really try
to get the meetings going on more regularly again and have more people
attending. Michael volunteered to organize the next two sync meetings, Carl
Friedrich will bug him to send out invitations. Also it was decided to try to
move the sync meeting to thursday 17.00 CET to enable developers in the US to
attend.

.. _`IRC-Log`:

fixating sprint in Hildesheim (25th-31st July)
-------------------------------------------------

complete log::

    **** BEGINNE LOGBUCH UM Thu Mar  9 13:02:25 2006

    Mär 09 13:02:25 *	Du sprichst jetzt in #pypy-sync
    Mär 09 13:03:05 *	aleale (n=aleale@130.104.228.188) hat #pypy-sync betreten
    Mär 09 13:04:51 *	mwh (n=mwh@82-32-1-111.cable.ubr01.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) hat #pypy-sync betreten
    Mär 09 13:05:03 mwh	crud, i meant to write a mail yesterday about pypy-sync
    Mär 09 13:06:08 cfbolz	:-)
    Mär 09 13:06:16 cfbolz	quick lines round? or do you have issues?
    Mär 09 13:06:56 aleale	PREV: Sprint, jetlag
    Mär 09 13:07:14 aleale	NEXT: revisit pyontology
    Mär 09 13:07:22 aleale	Blockers: -
    Mär 09 13:07:23 mwh	PREV: sprint, gc hacking
    Mär 09 13:07:28 mwh	NEXT: more gc hacking
    Mär 09 13:07:34 cfbolz	LAST: vacation, logic sprint
    Mär 09 13:07:34 cfbolz	NEXT: logic sprint, GC work
    Mär 09 13:07:34 cfbolz	BLOCKER: none
    Mär 09 13:07:34 mwh	BLOCKERS: -
    Mär 09 13:07:52 *	Gromit (n=gek@code0.codespeak.net) hat #pypy-sync betreten
    Mär 09 13:07:52 mwh	does anyone ever have any blockers?
    Mär 09 13:07:58 cfbolz	yes
    Mär 09 13:08:08 nikh	LAST: sprint, picked up squeak backend
    Mär 09 13:08:08 nikh	NEXT: squeak backend
    Mär 09 13:08:08 nikh	BLOCKERS: still sickish
    Mär 09 13:08:13 nikh	yes, me ;)
    Mär 09 13:08:18 mwh	ah
    Mär 09 13:08:24 cfbolz	mwh: we actually have blockers on stackless having an applevel interface right now
    Mär 09 13:08:31 arre	PREV: Recovering from PyCon
    Mär 09 13:08:31 arre	NEXT: Non-PyPy work, maybe some JIT.
    Mär 09 13:08:31 arre	BLOCKERS: -
    Mär 09 13:08:33 mwh	oh, cool :)
    Mär 09 13:08:50 mwh	in some sense
    Mär 09 13:09:12 cfbolz	hehe
    Mär 09 13:09:22 cfbolz	I guess the best thing we can do to get the pypy-syncs going again is to assign next weeks moderation to someone
    Mär 09 13:09:28 cfbolz	and have an invitation send out
    Mär 09 13:09:32 cfbolz	in time
    Mär 09 13:10:10 mwh	i could do the next two, but then i'm on holiday
    Mär 09 13:10:24 cfbolz	I will try to remind you of the invitation
    Mär 09 13:10:43 Gromit	LAST, NEXT, BOLCKERS: Busy with other work
    Mär 09 13:13:06 cfbolz	meeting closed then?
    Mär 09 13:13:17 arre	What about moving the time of the meeting to acomodate our friends across the Atlantic?
    Mär 09 13:13:33 cfbolz	I would like to discuss this with more people
    Mär 09 13:14:12 xorAxAx	how about using the mailing list for the discussion?
    Mär 09 13:14:34 mwh	it's a chicken and egg situation, a bit
    Mär 09 13:14:38 nikh	did anyone overseas express interestin pypy-sync?
    Mär 09 13:14:39 cfbolz	yes
    Mär 09 13:14:46 cfbolz	holger :-)
    Mär 09 13:14:52 mwh	gene said he might
    Mär 09 13:14:54 nikh	ah, of course ...
    Mär 09 13:15:22 cfbolz	how about thursday at 16.00?
    Mär 09 13:15:38 cfbolz	or 17.00?
    Mär 09 13:15:44 nikh	16.00 is 7 am on the west cost
    Mär 09 13:15:49 nikh	so better 17.00 i guess
    Mär 09 13:15:59 arre	17:00 is better.
    Mär 09 13:16:05 cfbolz	ok with me
    Mär 09 13:16:22 aleale	Most weeks it will be ok (every fourth week it will be a nuissance)
    Mär 09 13:16:39 Gromit	ok, that's much better, it won't collide with my sync-meetings here
    Mär 09 13:16:50 cfbolz	good!
    Mär 09 13:17:35 cfbolz	then we actually have something to write a summary about :-)
    Mär 09 13:17:40 cfbolz	meeting closed then
    Mär 09 13:18:40 *	Gromit (n=gek@code0.codespeak.net) hat #pypy-sync verlassen ("Leaving")
    Mär 09 13:19:16 mwh	ok with me
    Mär 09 13:19:20 cfbolz	good
    Mär 09 13:19:22 cfbolz	see you then
    **** BEENDE LOGBUCH UM Thu Mar  9 13:19:23 2006

    **** BEGINNE LOGBUCH UM Thu Mar  9 13:02:25 2006

    Mär 09 13:02:25 *	Du sprichst jetzt in #pypy-sync
    Mär 09 13:03:05 *	aleale (n=aleale@130.104.228.188) hat #pypy-sync betreten
    Mär 09 13:04:51 *	mwh (n=mwh@82-32-1-111.cable.ubr01.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) hat #pypy-sync betreten
    Mär 09 13:05:03 mwh	crud, i meant to write a mail yesterday about pypy-sync
    Mär 09 13:06:08 cfbolz	:-)
    Mär 09 13:06:16 cfbolz	quick lines round? or do you have issues?
    Mär 09 13:06:56 aleale	PREV: Sprint, jetlag
    Mär 09 13:07:14 aleale	NEXT: revisit pyontology
    Mär 09 13:07:22 aleale	Blockers: -
    Mär 09 13:07:23 mwh	PREV: sprint, gc hacking
    Mär 09 13:07:28 mwh	NEXT: more gc hacking
    Mär 09 13:07:34 cfbolz	LAST: vacation, logic sprint
    Mär 09 13:07:34 cfbolz	NEXT: logic sprint, GC work
    Mär 09 13:07:34 cfbolz	BLOCKER: none
    Mär 09 13:07:34 mwh	BLOCKERS: -
    Mär 09 13:07:52 *	Gromit (n=gek@code0.codespeak.net) hat #pypy-sync betreten
    Mär 09 13:07:52 mwh	does anyone ever have any blockers?
    Mär 09 13:07:58 cfbolz	yes
    Mär 09 13:08:08 nikh	LAST: sprint, picked up squeak backend
    Mär 09 13:08:08 nikh	NEXT: squeak backend
    Mär 09 13:08:08 nikh	BLOCKERS: still sickish
    Mär 09 13:08:13 nikh	yes, me ;)
    Mär 09 13:08:18 mwh	ah
    Mär 09 13:08:24 cfbolz	mwh: we actually have blockers on stackless having an applevel interface right now
    Mär 09 13:08:31 arre	PREV: Recovering from PyCon
    Mär 09 13:08:31 arre	NEXT: Non-PyPy work, maybe some JIT.
    Mär 09 13:08:31 arre	BLOCKERS: -
    Mär 09 13:08:33 mwh	oh, cool :)
    Mär 09 13:08:50 mwh	in some sense
    Mär 09 13:09:12 cfbolz	hehe
    Mär 09 13:09:22 cfbolz	I guess the best thing we can do to get the pypy-syncs going again is to assign next weeks moderation to someone
    Mär 09 13:09:28 cfbolz	and have an invitation send out
    Mär 09 13:09:32 cfbolz	in time
    Mär 09 13:10:10 mwh	i could do the next two, but then i'm on holiday
    Mär 09 13:10:24 cfbolz	I will try to remind you of the invitation
    Mär 09 13:10:43 Gromit	LAST, NEXT, BOLCKERS: Busy with other work
    Mär 09 13:13:06 cfbolz	meeting closed then?
    Mär 09 13:13:17 arre	What about moving the time of the meeting to acomodate our friends across the Atlantic?
    Mär 09 13:13:33 cfbolz	I would like to discuss this with more people
    Mär 09 13:14:12 xorAxAx	how about using the mailing list for the discussion?
    Mär 09 13:14:34 mwh	it's a chicken and egg situation, a bit
    Mär 09 13:14:38 nikh	did anyone overseas express interestin pypy-sync?
    Mär 09 13:14:39 cfbolz	yes
    Mär 09 13:14:46 cfbolz	holger :-)
    Mär 09 13:14:52 mwh	gene said he might
    Mär 09 13:14:54 nikh	ah, of course ...
    Mär 09 13:15:22 cfbolz	how about thursday at 16.00?
    Mär 09 13:15:38 cfbolz	or 17.00?
    Mär 09 13:15:44 nikh	16.00 is 7 am on the west cost
    Mär 09 13:15:49 nikh	so better 17.00 i guess
    Mär 09 13:15:59 arre	17:00 is better.
    Mär 09 13:16:05 cfbolz	ok with me
    Mär 09 13:16:22 aleale	Most weeks it will be ok (every fourth week it will be a nuissance)
    Mär 09 13:16:39 Gromit	ok, that's much better, it won't collide with my sync-meetings here
    Mär 09 13:16:50 cfbolz	good!
    Mär 09 13:17:35 cfbolz	then we actually have something to write a summary about :-)
    Mär 09 13:17:40 cfbolz	meeting closed then
    Mär 09 13:18:40 *	Gromit (n=gek@code0.codespeak.net) hat #pypy-sync verlassen ("Leaving")
    Mär 09 13:19:16 mwh	ok with me
    Mär 09 13:19:20 cfbolz	good
    Mär 09 13:19:22 cfbolz	see you then
    **** BEENDE LOGBUCH UM Thu Mar  9 13:19:23 2006
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