(07:54:04 PM) #scons: The topic for #scons is: SCons | building software, better | http://www.scons.org | next bug triage party is Tue 2 Mar 2010 17h00 US/Pacific (07:54:10 PM) GregNoel [~firstname.lastname@example.org] entered the room. (07:56:07 PM) Jason_at_Intel: hello (07:56:23 PM) Jason_at_Intel: hope everyone had a good break (07:57:51 PM) bdbaddog: NY Blizzard aside.. it was pretty darned good. (07:58:13 PM) Jason_at_Intel: ya ... That looked bad (07:58:24 PM) garyo: hi folks; I had fun here in Boston. (07:59:19 PM) GregNoel: garyo, it may be fun, but that white stuff is snow joke... (07:59:52 PM) Jason_at_Intel: I like the snow... way better than an ice storm (08:00:19 PM) garyo: Skiing's pretty good here now, or at least it was for a while. (08:01:01 PM) Jason_at_Intel: we had all this snow here.. then in the last week it warned up to 60 degrees for to days.. melted and drop back to the 20's (08:01:48 PM) kesselhaus left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 240 seconds). (08:01:57 PM) Jason_at_Intel: Greg.. I had a message on the dev group.... do you have anything thoughts on it (08:02:05 PM) sgk [~sgk@nat/google/x-nmclqbzkuhxtmwnh] entered the room. (08:02:43 PM) Jason_at_Intel: hello Steve (08:02:54 PM) GregNoel: haven't read mail in over a week (08:02:55 PM) sgk: hi Jason (08:03:10 PM) kesselhaus [~email@example.com] entered the room. (08:03:20 PM) GregNoel: Looks like a quorum... Who all's here? (08:03:23 PM) garyo: Hi Steven! (08:03:32 PM) sgk: hi gary (08:03:40 PM) bdbaddog: Hi everybody! (08:03:47 PM) garyo: Hi Bill! (08:04:07 PM) Jason_at_Intel: hope we can fix up the speed issue in SCons steve.. I am seeing good results with my .10 beta of Parts.. hope we can back up the taskmaster/node fixes to get the rest (08:04:11 PM) sgk: in case it hasn't already gotten widely publicized, my new favorite web site: http://www.ismycomputeron.com/ (08:04:31 PM) garyo: ha ha (08:04:42 PM) Jason_at_Intel: lol (08:04:46 PM) sgk: Jason_at_Intel: agreed (08:05:31 PM) garyo: so do you all want to go in spreadsheet order, or tigris list order? (08:05:56 PM) Jason_at_Intel: spreadsheet order +1 (08:06:05 PM) garyo: fine w/ me (08:06:15 PM) GregNoel: good for me (08:06:26 PM) GregNoel: 2703? (08:06:40 PM) ***sgk searches for the right window... (08:07:17 PM) garyo: looks like 2.2 p3; Jason has some ideas on what to do... (08:07:34 PM) Jason_at_Intel: it is documented :-) (08:07:50 PM) Jason_at_Intel: and i have been adding new packaging code for our installer in Parts (08:08:09 PM) garyo: Can you attach that info to the bug itself? (08:08:23 PM) Jason_at_Intel: ya... I will add it now (08:08:24 PM) sgk: what version of python do we need to use to get that bdist_wininst option? (08:08:59 PM) bdbaddog: also packaging is broken python >= 2.6 (08:09:02 PM) Jason_at_Intel: I think it is 2.6.. I need to double check however (08:09:06 PM) bdbaddog: via bootstrap.py (08:09:43 PM) sgk: bdbaddog: what's the symptom? (08:10:47 PM) bdbaddog: hmm.. it's been reported in the mailing list for a while as well. it fails building the win installer from linux. (08:10:54 PM) garyo: could make a ticket for that issue and link them perhaps? (08:10:58 PM) bdbaddog: I've been using python 2.5.* explicitly for a while. (08:12:36 PM) sgk: a ticket sounds like the right thing (08:12:39 PM) sgk: anyway (08:12:41 PM) garyo: It must be fixable -- I could try on a python 2.6 machine. I just don't have one with all the doc tools etc. but could make one (08:13:02 PM) sgk: what about 2703? jason or me or...? (08:13:09 PM) Jason_at_Intel: Ya i think you need 2.6 (08:13:19 PM) Jason_at_Intel: you (08:13:21 PM) Jason_at_Intel: :-) (08:13:39 PM) sgk: works for me (08:13:41 PM) sgk: 2.2 p3 sk ? (08:13:44 PM) GregNoel: done (08:13:46 PM) Jason_at_Intel: I am not making the official packages.. so it hard for me to fix (08:14:00 PM) garyo: 2708 is mine, consensus (08:14:01 PM) GregNoel: 2708? (08:14:08 PM) GregNoel: done (08:14:16 PM) GregNoel: 2709? (08:14:17 PM) bdbaddog: @jason - fix it to work on 2.6 and push me the patch and I'll verify. (08:14:46 PM) garyo: 2709 3.x p3 +toolchain works for me (08:15:04 PM) GregNoel: consensus, done (08:15:09 PM) GregNoel: 2700? (08:15:30 PM) Jason_at_Intel: is there a master script to build all the packages? (08:15:31 PM) garyo: Q: what is .#cache.log? A SCons thing, or his file? (08:15:37 PM) GregNoel: Need priority and owner (08:15:44 PM) Jason_at_Intel: or do i just call the setup.py at the root level (08:15:56 PM) bdbaddog: @jason - send me an email offline (08:15:57 PM) sgk: Jason_at_Intel: yeah, but it's a really gnarly SConstruct file that dates to the earliest days of SCons (08:16:56 PM) garyo: 2700: research sgk? Or I could look at it. (08:17:06 PM) sgk: research sgk is fine with me (08:17:15 PM) garyo: thanks (08:17:19 PM) GregNoel: done (08:17:29 PM) GregNoel: priority? (08:18:33 PM) sgk: i think .#cache.log is the file he's specified with --cache-debug= (08:18:39 PM) sgk: p2 (08:18:49 PM) GregNoel: done (08:18:50 PM) garyo: sgk: makes sense. (08:19:00 PM) garyo: So probably pretty easy to close when done. (08:19:13 PM) GregNoel: 2701? (08:19:19 PM) garyo: 2701 seems weird to me. Invalid? (08:19:44 PM) Jason_at_Intel: I did not get... (08:19:59 PM) garyo: He changes the source outside SCons during the build, I think. (08:20:11 PM) bdbaddog: ewww (08:20:11 PM) sgk: yeah, if it's what i think it is, i don't know if we have a solution (08:20:18 PM) Jason_at_Intel: that would mess up the sig system (08:20:28 PM) garyo: solution = "stop doing that." :-) (08:20:40 PM) GregNoel: I don't know of any build system that handles that gracefully, so invalid works for me. (08:20:42 PM) sgk: you could argue that we can (or should?) rechecksum the contents after the action is finished (08:20:49 PM) sgk: but that would just change where the race is (08:21:01 PM) garyo: eww. slow it down even more, without *really* solving it... (08:21:06 PM) sgk: right (08:21:30 PM) garyo: nah, just explain it can't work the way he wants it to. Sorry. (08:21:44 PM) sgk: k, INVALID (08:21:46 PM) GregNoel: invalid? (08:22:01 PM) sgk: who wants to write it? (08:22:15 PM) GregNoel: The issue? (08:22:22 PM) sgk: the response in the issue (08:22:32 PM) GregNoel: I usually do (08:22:48 PM) sgk: if you can, that'd be great (08:22:52 PM) GregNoel: done (08:23:06 PM) garyo: 2702: 2.x p3 bill consensus, thanks! (08:23:07 PM) GregNoel: 2702? (08:23:12 PM) GregNoel: done (08:23:40 PM) GregNoel: 2704? (08:23:45 PM) garyo: 2704: I just pinged him again. He gets one more chance to reply, then we close. (08:24:00 PM) GregNoel: ok, defer (08:24:16 PM) GregNoel: 2705? (08:24:21 PM) garyo: I'll do this one. (08:24:27 PM) garyo: At least the UG fix. (08:24:39 PM) GregNoel: 2.x p3? (08:24:41 PM) Jason_at_Intel: with 2705 (08:24:45 PM) garyo: for 2.1, why not. (08:24:51 PM) Jason_at_Intel: do we test with python 64-bit on windows? (08:25:23 PM) GregNoel: 2.1 p3, then? (08:25:45 PM) garyo: Jason: I've just started using 64-bit python on Linux, actually. SCons seems to run there. (2.6 on RedHat 4/64, believe it or not) (08:25:50 PM) garyo: Greg: yes (08:25:57 PM) GregNoel: done (08:26:03 PM) GregNoel: 2706? (08:26:26 PM) garyo: 2.x p3 bill, looks like (08:26:28 PM) bdbaddog: I got it. I already have another swig bug, so I can hit them all at once. (08:26:38 PM) GregNoel: done (08:26:43 PM) GregNoel: 2707? (08:26:44 PM) garyo: same w/ 2707 (08:26:51 PM) bdbaddog: yup. (08:26:51 PM) GregNoel: ditto? (08:26:55 PM) GregNoel: done (08:27:03 PM) GregNoel: 2710? (08:27:09 PM) Jason_at_Intel: I ask as i think we need to test on windows... I am seeing something odd.. need to verify (08:27:14 PM) sgk: 2710: me (08:27:29 PM) garyo: ok, you got it (08:27:34 PM) GregNoel: milestone and priority? (08:27:42 PM) sgk: 2.1 p2 (08:27:48 PM) GregNoel: done (08:27:59 PM) GregNoel: 2711? (08:28:13 PM) sgk: research p2 sk (08:28:18 PM) GregNoel: done (08:28:31 PM) sgk: 2712: INVALID (08:28:45 PM) GregNoel: worksforme (08:29:06 PM) garyo: ok (08:29:13 PM) GregNoel: 2713? (08:29:45 PM) sgk: any objection to dirk having commit rights for this sort of thing? (08:29:46 PM) bdbaddog: I've gotta punch out to head to a class. Catch u all later. (08:29:56 PM) garyo: bye Bill. (08:30:03 PM) garyo: Dirk committer: +1 (08:30:03 PM) sgk: bye (08:30:05 PM) Jason_at_Intel: later ! (08:30:22 PM) GregNoel: concur, Dirk as a committer (08:30:47 PM) GregNoel: milestone and priority? (08:30:53 PM) sgk: 2.1 p3 ? (08:30:55 PM) garyo: 2.1 p3 dirk? (08:31:04 PM) GregNoel: done (08:31:11 PM) garyo: (q: what about arg2nodes?) (08:31:30 PM) garyo: It's pretty useful... (08:32:23 PM) sgk: Add an issue to make it part of the documented / supported API ? (08:32:28 PM) sgk: probably under a different name (08:32:44 PM) sgk: while preserving arg2nodes() for backwards compatiibility, of course (08:32:46 PM) garyo: ok, a nicely named wrapper makes sense. (08:32:57 PM) GregNoel: sgk, concur (08:33:06 PM) Jason_at_Intel: I think we might want to think about refactor work for nodes first? (08:33:12 PM) garyo: Steven, can you add that ticket? (08:33:55 PM) garyo: Jason: I think they're orthogonal (08:34:01 PM) garyo: (either one can be done first) (08:34:05 PM) sgk: garyo: yes (08:34:13 PM) garyo: thx (08:34:15 PM) Jason_at_Intel: ok (08:34:18 PM) GregNoel: 2698? (08:35:08 PM) garyo: 2.1 p3, me or anyone (the simple way, just add them to the parseflags code) (08:35:18 PM) garyo: Generalizing that logic takes more work. (08:35:28 PM) GregNoel: I'd break out the list of options that are passed to both the compiler and the linker into a separate list, but otherwise this is pretty trivial. (08:35:35 PM) GregNoel: Anybody can do it. (08:35:51 PM) garyo: I'll take it, why not. (08:36:05 PM) sgk: thx (08:36:09 PM) GregNoel: milestone and priority? (08:36:15 PM) garyo: 2.1 p3 (08:36:22 PM) GregNoel: done, thanks (08:36:44 PM) sgk: no real activity on the research issues (08:36:50 PM) GregNoel: Do any of the rest have a quorum of comments? (08:37:30 PM) Jason_at_Intel: If Steve can give me some time and can get the 1708 issue patched (08:37:33 PM) GregNoel: 2416, garyo, how old is that comment? (08:38:04 PM) sgk: jason: I think so (08:38:05 PM) garyo: 2416 is already done. (08:38:05 PM) Jason_at_Intel: If Steve can give me some time I can get the 1708 issue patched (08:38:34 PM) Jason_at_Intel: cool... hope you can :-) google really eats you up.. or hides you well :-) (08:38:52 PM) GregNoel: garyo, good, then in can be removed. (08:39:02 PM) garyo: Greg: yes (08:39:06 PM) sgk: partly google, partly real life (08:39:35 PM) GregNoel: I have guests arriving in a few minutes; if that's all for now, I should go. (08:39:46 PM) Jason_at_Intel: is 800 a dup? (08:39:46 PM) garyo: I think we did well tonight -- thanks all (08:40:06 PM) sgk: jason: probably, i think we have multiple issues re: line length (08:40:18 PM) Jason_at_Intel: I thought so (08:40:20 PM) GregNoel: OK, thanks; I'll leave the session running in case anything else is decided. (08:40:26 PM) GregNoel: cu later (08:40:31 PM) garyo: bye 4 now all (08:40:33 PM) Jason_at_Intel: Gary .. let me know if you can try Parts again (08:40:42 PM) garyo: It's on my list for this week. Will do. (08:40:48 PM) Jason_at_Intel: so i can fix compatiblity issues :-) (08:40:51 PM) garyo: I know you made some updates. (08:40:52 PM) Jason_at_Intel: Thanks! (08:41:03 PM) Jason_at_Intel: Have more coming (08:41:13 PM) garyo: all good. (08:41:22 PM) Jason_at_Intel: steve you have any time?