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 <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#XSLT_Facts_-_Why_XSLT_is_Evil"><span class="tocnumber">7.2.10</span> <span class="toctext">XSLT Facts - Why XSLT is Evil</span></a></li>
 <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#One_Moose_Per_Child"><span class="tocnumber">7.2.11</span> <span class="toctext">One Moose Per Child</span></a></li>
 <li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#Perl_Ninjas.2C_Pirates_and_Zombies"><span class="tocnumber">7.2.12</span> <span class="toctext">Perl Ninjas, Pirates and Zombies</span></a></li>
-<li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#How_can_I_switch_off_the_T.V..3F"><span class="tocnumber">7.2.13</span> <span class="toctext">How can I switch off the T.V.?</span></a></li>
+<li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#enterprise_edition_of_Perl"><span class="tocnumber">7.2.13</span> <span class="toctext">Perl’s Enterprise Edition</span></a></li>
+<li class="toclevel-3"><a href="#How_can_I_switch_off_the_T.V..3F"><span class="tocnumber">7.2.14</span> <span class="toctext">How can I switch off the T.V.?</span></a></li>
 <li class="toclevel-1"><a href="#Cartoons"><span class="tocnumber">8</span> <span class="toctext">Cartoons</span></a></li>
 <p>From Freenode&apos;s #perl.
+<h4 id="enterprise_edition_of_Perl">Perl’s Enterprise Edition</h4>
+ &lt;federated_life&gt;  once you get into poe and moose heavily…why stay with
+                   perl instead of going to java ?
+        &lt;LeoNerd&gt;  I&#39;ve spent much of this last month writing Perl at home
+                   and Java at work.. I really really dislike Java
+        &lt;Su-Shee&gt;  federated_life: what for?
+ &lt;federated_life&gt;  since being a real programmer is editing the binary
+                   files directly instead of recompiling…but java has a
+                   lot of nice stuff
+        &lt;LeoNerd&gt;  It is far too new FutureFunction&lt;Param,Result&gt;() {
+                   public Future&lt;Result&gt; apply(Param p) { noisy } } for my
+                   liking
+        &lt;Su-Shee&gt;  federated_life: WTF?
+        &lt;LeoNerd&gt;  I always get annoyed that the smallest of things takes
+                   just far too much code in Java, to the point that after
+                   a glance, I can&#39;t see where the real detail is
+        &lt;Su-Shee&gt;  federated_life: and what nice stuff does Java has?
+        &lt;apeiron&gt;  federated_life, you know where Java is if you want it.
+                   we&#39;re not stopping you.
+ &lt;federated_life&gt;  Im no java expert, nor a perl expert …. but I don&#39;t
+                   have to load half of cpan to get moose equivalent in
+                   java
+        &lt;apeiron&gt;  it&#39;s hardly half of CPAN
+        &lt;apeiron&gt;  it&#39;s not even a third or a quarter
+ &lt;federated_life&gt;  :)
+        &lt;apeiron&gt;  no, not :)
+        &lt;apeiron&gt;  more like &quot;stfu and stop spreading ignorance-based FUD&quot;
+ &lt;federated_life&gt;  perl is awesome, no doubts about it, but Im curious
+                   what other languages you guys hack stuff up in
+        &lt;Su-Shee&gt;  federated_life: then just use Java and leave us using
+                   something else if you like it better.. also: plenty of
+                   perl code doesn&#39;t even need Moose or POE
+        &lt;apeiron&gt;  C
+        &lt;rindolf&gt;  federated_life: I also use C, Ruby and Python.
+        &lt;LeoNerd&gt;  Perl, Scheme, C, Java,...
+        &lt;rindolf&gt;  federated_life: and I play with other languages too.
+        &lt;rindolf&gt;  federated_life: and C++.
+       &lt;tybalt89&gt;  federated_life: surveys are one channel over
+        &lt;Su-Shee&gt;  federated_life: C, Ruby, JavaScript, Shell, R and sadly
+                   Java for Android stuff
+           &lt;lroe&gt;  tybalt89, #perl++?
+        &lt;LeoNerd&gt;  Objective Perl++.NET
+        &lt;rindolf&gt;  LeoNerd: heh.
+        &lt;rindolf&gt;  LeoNerd: Enterprise Edition.
+        &lt;LeoNerd&gt;  Wait, Objective jPerl++.NET surely..
+        &lt;Su-Shee&gt;  Objective jPerl.NET++ Enterprise Beans
+        &lt;rindolf&gt;  Objective jIronPerl++.NET Enterprise Edition.
+ &lt;federated_life&gt;  jperl !! awesome, now something to make java devs lose
+                   their minds
+        &lt;LeoNerd&gt;  I wonder if anyone has a web framework called Toast
+        &lt;LeoNerd&gt;  Could make Beans on Toast
+        &lt;rindolf&gt;  federated_life: there&#39;s Inline::Java, BTW.
+           &lt;lroe&gt;  Objective jIronPerl++.NET Enterprise Edition♭
+        &lt;LeoNerd&gt;  lroe: Isn&#39;t the &quot;Iron&quot; something about .NET anyway
+                   though?
+           &lt;lroe&gt;  I added the ♭
+           &lt;lroe&gt;  not the iron
+        &lt;Su-Shee&gt;  LeoNerd: you hid your python.
+        &lt;LeoNerd&gt;  *ahem*
+        &lt;rindolf&gt;  federated_life: http://paste.debian.net/218118/ - Larry
+                   Wall about Java.
+        &lt;rindolf&gt;  lroe: isn&#39;t the ♭ &quot;flat&quot;?
+        &lt;rindolf&gt;  perlbot: utf8 ♭
+        &lt;perlbot&gt;  rindolf: U+266D (e2 99 ad): MUSIC FLAT SIGN [♭]
+        &lt;rindolf&gt;  :-)
+ &lt;federated_life&gt;  rindolf: circa 1997
+           &lt;lroe&gt;  yes it is the flat sign
+           &lt;lroe&gt;  as opposed to the sharp sign
+        &lt;rindolf&gt;  http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/fortunes/show.cgi?id=shlomif-functional-specs--ms-editing-macros
+        &lt;rindolf&gt;  So now we have:
+        &lt;rindolf&gt;  Objective jIronPerl++.NET Enterprise Edition♭
+                   Professional Home Premium™.
+        &lt;rindolf&gt;  LOL.
+      &lt;icebattle&gt;  Objective jIronPerl++.NET Enterprise Edition♭
+                   Professional Home Premium 64-bit Single-user
+    -- Enterprise Perl for the Enterprise Win
+    -- #perl, Freenode
 <h4 id="How_can_I_switch_off_the_T.V..3F"> How can I switch off the T.V.? </h4>
 <p>(This bit was posted anonymously to a pastebot on 23 March, 2011. It is placed her for posterity after some editing.)