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Minutes, 9 June 2017 interim, 6TiSCH WG
Note: timestamps in PDT.
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- Date: 9 June 2017 7-8am Pacific: http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?qm=1&lid=100,12,5392171,1850147&h=100&date=2017-06-09&sln=14-15
- Webex link: https://cisco.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?MTID=mcdbbe3a4e38d97d986b507ec12a1f9b1
- Material link: https://bitbucket.org/6tisch/meetings/raw/master/170609_webex/slides_170609_webex.ppt
- Webex Recording:
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Present
- Diego Dujovne
- Thomas Watteyne
- Pascal Thubert
- Malisa Vucinic
- Michael Richardson
- Dominique Barthel
- Qin Wang
- Remy Leone
- Tengfei Chang
- Xavi Vilajosana
- Pedro Gomes
- Simon Duquennoy
- Sedat Gormus
Present (previous meeting)
- Thomas Watteyne
- Pascal Thubert
- A Paventhan
- Diego Dujovne
- Jonathan Munoz
- Malisa Vucinic
- Maria Rita Palattella
- Michael Richardson
- Remy Leone
- Sumankumar Panchal
- Tengfei Chang
- Yasuyuki Tanaka
Taking notes (using Etherpad)
- Pascal Thubert
- Thomas Watteyne
- Xavi Vilajosana
Action Items
- Xavi and Qin to follow up review SF0
- Diego to continue the thread on time out computation between SF0 and 6P. Whether ASN of the time out should be indicated in the packet.
- Xavi and Qin to post 6p-06 addressing Jonathan's comments
- All to review the test
Agenda
- Administrivia [7min]
- Agenda bashing
- Approval minutes from last meeting
- Addressing todo's from last time
- Available: RFC 8137 and RFC 8180
- 6P finalization (Xavi, Qin) [20min]
- News on draft-ietf-6tisch-6top-protocol-05 [Qin]
- review 6P [Jonathan, presented by Tengfei]
- PlugTest [25min]
- admin update [Miguel]
- test description [Maria Rita]
- overview tools [Remy]
- next steps [Thomas]
- AOB [ 3min]
Minutes
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[7:05] Administrivia [7min]
- Agenda bashing
- agenda is approved.
- Approval minutes from last meeting
- Last call minutes approved.
- Addressing todo's from last time
- Xavi and Qin to review SF0
- Xavi sent comments to Diego and mailing list, got response but hasn't processed yet.
- Qin also sent the review of SF0 to the ML and to Diego.
- Action item for Diego to follow up.
- Diego to start a thread on time out computation between SF0 and 6P. Whether ASN of the time out should be indicated in the packet.
- Xavi and Qin to post 6p-05 addressing Charlie's comments
- Done
- Jonathan to review 6P after Charlie's comments are addressed
- Underway, comments posted and being discussed
- Xavi and Qin to review SF0
- Available: RFC 8137 and RFC 8180
- RFC8137, shared work with 6lo, Asking officially to IEEE ANA for an IETF IE
- Action item for 6p editor is to update 6p draft to point to this RFC.
- We need to make sure we allocate a sub-id for the 6P from the IETF IANA
- Also RFC8180 published
- Plugtest information:
- Chairs asked for a 6TiSCH meeting early in the week.
- The duration can be elastic 2H or 2H30, to be sure we get it at the beginning of the week.
- Agenda bashing
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[7:12] 6P finalization (Xavi, Qin) [20min]
- News on draft-ietf-6tisch-6top-protocol-05 [Qin]
- review 6P [Jonathan, presented by Tengfei]
- Qin provided answers to the review by Jonathan
- Tengfei: About the use of MAY
- Thomas: please do not use normative language here, just lowercase "are"
- Pascal: yes, please limit the use of uppercase to normative directions that are required for interoperation, and may be validated by a conformance test.
- Xavi: what's next, publish 06 and then?
- Thomas: Yes we need a stable 06 for the plugTest. We can WGLC after the plugtest
- Xavi: yes, there were a lot of good comments for minimal at previous plugTest
- Pascal: Agree, let's report on the plugTest abd the WG meeting and start WGLC ASAP after that
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[7:32] PlugTest [25min]
- admin update [Thomas for Miguel]
- Website is launched, need registrations by end of June
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test description [Remy for Maria Rita]
- published by Remy. The presentation seems to be image only, can not click on link, please paste it here:
- Call to everybody to have a look and raise issues if something is not correct.
- release it by 15th june
- have a sniffer on the pt that will be sniffing all traffic during all day long.
- objective is to be able to replicate all what happened during the plugtest.
- test include: minimal, sync, security, 6p
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TW: questions about bitbucket repo https://bitbucket.org/6tisch/td-6tisch
- the repo contains yml files with the different tels. THere is a tool to convert them to pdf.
- Remy has done a subselection of the tests in the repo to create the final pdf. THe rest of yml files describe other tests that will not be used in this PT.
- THe idea is that by the 16th of june an official PDF will be sent out as a final test description.
- REMY requires as much review as possible from the WG and participant.
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Thomas: please do the pseudo-legals to ensure that all participants agree that all traffic is sniffed and recorded *
- On 6TiSCH security [Malisa]
- Stateless proxy option defined in the 6tisch minimal security
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new coap option used when we want stateless operation of the coap proxy.
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Question is where to include the description of the required option for the 6tisch minimal security. Need a separate Core draft?
- Also value:
- first range to 255 is for options defined by the IETF in an RFC and with IESG approval.
- second range 255 to 2047 common specifications (outside IETF)
- Malisa proposes to use a number from the second range. So we do not close this option to the IETF.
- Michael R: agrees on using the first range. as this is an option for the IETF.
- Would that option will be hidden in the 6tisch draft? or be a different draft at core
- Pascal: The rule is an RFC, note a Core RFC. We need to present ot Core early, that's politeness.
- Malisa: Already presented to Core
- Thomas: All set then
- Michael R: we do not need to make it a different draft but just present 1 slide at CORE.
- admin update [Thomas for Miguel]
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[7:47] AOB [ 3min]
- All: Please register by July 7 at the IETF meeting. Draft cutoff date is July 3rd.
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