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OpenID AB/Connect WG Meeting Notes (2020-12-17)
- Date & Time: 2020-12-17 15:00 UTC
- Location: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/181372694
Agenda
The meeting was called to order at 15:__ UTC.
1. Roll Call
- Attending: Nat, Mike, Filip, George, Tom, Oliver, Achim, Alberto, Kristina, Tim
- Regrets:
- Guest:
2. Adoption of Agenda (Nat)
- RP Initiated
3. Internal Liaisons
3.1. Conditional claims managed by eKYC WG (Torsten/Alberto)
Alberto Pulido made an invited presentation on work happening in the eKYC-IDA working group
The existence of claim values meeting criteria can be obtained without revealing the value
For instance, age >= 18
Oliver asked whether they looked into using JSON Path for this
Albert responded that they looked at a number of other proposals
They wanted something simple
Oliver said that JSON Path already has relational operators
Mike asked whether JSON Path supports querying for values without revealing them
Alberto said that operators can be combined
Mike said that possibly JSON Path operator syntax can be used even if all of it isn't applicable
George asked about internationalization considerations
George asked Bjorn whether features of the MODRNA User Questioning API might be applicable
Bjorn thought so
John observed that there are cans of works about displaying arbitrary RP strings in the OP interface
Alberto said that values may need to be checked in the back end
Nat said that the purpose of the presentation was to ask whether to do this work in eKYC-IDA or in the Connect WG
George: There's value of having this work in a common setting
John: We had the age claim as an example in the Core spec
Bjorn: I believe this belongs in a central place, therefore should be in the Connect WG
Nat asked if there's enough bandwidth and volunteers to work on this item
eKYC has a bunch of people that want to work on it
But Nat agrees that it should be in Connect
John asked whether those from eKYC could participate in the Connect WG
John: We could have special calls for this
Mike: We don't want to create a subgroup if that loses the benefit of broad WG review and participation
Bjorn: Agrees with Mike. Said that this can be addressed by having published agendas.
George: We need decent read-out on a frequent basis to get broad review
Nat: We would need a leader for the work
John: They're just additional working calls with a dedicated agenda
Mike: We don't want subgroups. We want focus areas or work items.
John: They can just be calls with agendas published in advance. If they have clear topics, people will self-select.
Kristina: They can be special topic calls. Several people agreed.
John: You need a separate field for language/script designation. UTF-8 is not self-describing.
John: We should have a contributed document as a starting point
Alberto will join the working group and contribute the document
Nat: We need to identify a leader and then announce special topic calls
Kristina will serve as a SIOP topic leader.
Mike and Oliver will back her up.
4. External organizations and events
4.1. W3C (George/John/Kristina)
George gave a status update on both IsLoggedIn and WebID
- IsLoggedIn
Apple is pressing forward with IsLoggedIn
It might clear cookies for inactive logins
The W3C TAG wants to make sure that different browsers implement the same things
- WebID
Google has put WebID support in Chrome canary 89
Tim said that it currently errors out early
George and Vittorio Bertocci are working on responding to these
Achim would like to support their work
Tim said that many consumers wouldn't know that being logged out at Google will also log them out at YouTube
Tom observed that first party sets could be ambiguous
For instance, is amazon.com the same as amazon.co.uk?
George said that IsLoggedIn currently is only aware of password managers or WebAuthn - not federation, etc.
Tim and Tom and George and Vittorio will organize a special call about this
4.2. DIF
Kristina reports that DIF is holding a virtual F2F on January 19
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dif-face-to-face-virtual-2-tickets-131061150429
5. Drafts and Ideas
5.1. SIOP draft (Kristina)
Tobias circulated SIOP scopes document and breaking scope into parts.
WG members are asked to provide comments and feedback.
The contributed V2 draft matches the scopes of work agreed to on the last call
We discussed adopting the draft on that basis
5.3. prompt=create draft (George)
George received feedback on use of metadata
He will publish an updated draft
6. Specification Approval Votes
Mike reported that there are three outstanding spec approval votes, all of which need more participation
- FAPI 1.0 Final Specifications
- https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/216
- MODRNA Connect User Questioning API Implementer's Draft
- https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/221
- FastFed Implementer's Drafts
- https://openid.net/foundation/members/polls/226
7. AOB
The meeting was adjourned at 15:__ UTC
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