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FAPI WG Agenda & Meeting Notes (2024-04-24)
- Date & Time: 2024-04-24 14:00 UTC
- Location: https://zoom.us/j/97456084642?pwd=bTRFVzk4ZmlRK1M3bEprRlN5c3JFZz09
Agenda
The meeting was called to order at 14:05 UTC.
1. Roll Call (Dave)
- Attendees: Nat Sakimura, Joseph Heenan, Bjorn Hjelm, Filip Skokan, Mark Andrus, Peter Wallach, Rifaat Shekh-Yusef, Robert Gallagher, Dave Tonge, Kosuke Koiwai, Hideki Ikeda, Dima Postnikov
- Regrets:
2. Adoption of agenda (Dave)
- Default agenda Adopted.
3. Events (Mike L.)
OIDF Workshop at Google on Monday, April 15th in Sunnyvale – workshop recording and deck have been published: https://openid.net/presentations-media/
3.1. Identiverse May 28-31 in Vegas
OIDF has a breakout room if the WG is interested in meeting
- FAPI WG is confirmed for F2F meeting on Wednesday, May 29, 2024. Mike Leszcz sent a message to the FAPI mail list earlier today requesting those that plan to attend in person respond to that message. Virtual participants will use the standard FA{I WG Zoom session.
3.3. OAuth WG
Interim meetings start on May 7, 12:00 Eastern on Tuesdays.
- FedCM
- Status attestation, Token Status List, Global Tokn Revocation
- Proof issuer key authority
- Update on OAuth 2.1
3.4. OIDF Calendar
OIDF calendar on the website is slightly behind: https://openid.net/calendar/
4. External Orgs & Liaisons (Mike L.)
4.1. OF & OPIN Brasil
- OFBR—The high volume of FAPI re-certification requests to meet central bank mandates/milestones continued. The certification team is doing an excellent job managing the increased volume.
- OPIN – call today to confirm the transition to an updated single Brazil FAPI profile by May 1st.
- Previously allowed lots of optionality:
- Simplified and now requires PAR, private key JWT, ID Token encryption on both channels
- Use DCM to transfer clients to new profile
4.2. UAE
- Domingos leading the analysis of the draft FAPI profile with the Raidiam technical team.
4.3. UIDAI
- Unique Identification Authority of India – Gail, Joseph and Mark had a call to discuss how UIDAI may get involved with OIDF. Follow-up call next week to take a deeper dive into some of the OIDF specs and certification.
5. PRs (Dave)
5.1. 483 - reworking the text around length of the state parameter
https://bitbucket.org/openid/fapi/pull-requests/483
Removed text regarding state parameter and kept nonce length requirements and interoperability note
There were some discussions, but eventually, the callers decided to merge it as is.
Conformance suite currently tests 384 length state
Had pushback since there is no requirement for AS to accept long state value.
AS either processes it correctly or returns an error
Will makes tests give warnings instead of failure
5.2. 484 - Redirect vs decoupled recommendation for the same device use cases - first attempt.
https://bitbucket.org/openid/fapi/pull-requests/484
Related to #686
Added text that CIBA is designed for cross device flow
To be merged.
6. Issues (Dave)
6.1. 685 Use of TLS 1.2 Ciphers
Waiting for Joseph to add some details on the certification suite before closing.
No change will be made to the spec
https://bitbucket.org/openid/fapi/pull-requests/383 is related.
Requirements on who enforces the cipher requirements
6.2. 688 Simplifying the usage of FAPI-CIBA and FAPI 2 profiles together
Should mention FAPI CIBA as valid alternative to code flow
CIBA is referenced in Security Profile
CIBA lists FAPI2 requirements
Discuss further with Dima
6.3. 642 Continuation of #619 -- Add some text to make the readers aware of the caveats.
Dealt with in #619
Closing
6.4. 689 - FAPI + FedCM
https://bitbucket.org/openid/fapi/issues/689/fapi-fedcm
Had a meeting with Sam at IIW.
Some browsers plan to deprecate link decoration embedded with tracking IDs
Tracking flow similar to OAuth so browsers plan to block it which will affect OAuth/OpenID Connect
W3C is using FedCM API to bypass redirections for SSO authentication
Possible PoC to mitigate the NASCAR issue using FedCM.
We should invite Sam Goto once the PoC is ready to discuss potential extensions to FedCM APIs.
Chrome has implemented FedCM. Apple plans to support it.
Possible to make enhancements more useful for open banking use cases.
Currently, not possible for apps to be an IDP
Helpful to make POC to help push for changes
FedCM is intended to provide solution for lost of 3rd party cookies, not loss of link decorations.
Chrome has no plans to blank remove link decorations so may not have to deal with this problem
Bounce tracking is easy to detect due to lack of interaction
Login flows have user interaction
Invite Sam for presentation with POC when ready
7. AOB (Nat)
- Mark has sent out draft ISO PAS Explanatory report. See https://lists.openid.net/pipermail/openid-specs-fapi/2024-April/003095.html. Please review.
- Next call is Pacific Call @ 5 PM
- Meeting link: https://zoom.us/j/97456084642?pwd=bTRFVzk4ZmlRK1M3bEprRlN5c3JFZz09
The meeting adjourned at 15:04.
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